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I am thinking of getting the One One Stinson Evo's and was wondering if you think that they could help me get back out on the trail again. Im really missing being able to run its such a big part of my life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699371146826913182.post-69125568288462464202012-02-04T01:56:34.543-08:002012-02-04T01:56:34.543-08:00Dave-Sorry 1 more thing...Also being 40 yrs old I ...Dave-Sorry 1 more thing...Also being 40 yrs old I want to continue to run for many more years, so I'm hoping Hokas help with that. In hearing the Hokas don't last long (sole wears out pretty quick) would I be better off having a trail pair and a road pair? As much as I dont want to drop that much money on shoes. I'm wondering if having one pair for both trail and road would just wear out way to quick. Just wondering. 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When I'm on the road I'll put in 60-80 miles a week. Also I think I read that the Hoka has a 4mm drop, would that be an issue for some one like me who runs in a 10-12mm drop shoes. Would live your input and opinion. Also would love run my first 50 Miler and 100 Miler this year. Did my first 50k a month ago. Finished 8th overall 4:48. Thank you Dave!Richard Limahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09490006347061326687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699371146826913182.post-62320583909450264642011-11-22T11:53:30.406-08:002011-11-22T11:53:30.406-08:00Thanks for the Hoka information, Dave! Thinking se...Thanks for the Hoka information, Dave! Thinking seriously about them due to some PF issues. Despite the Obama years (...ugh :)), some good and inovative shoes to be worn.<br /><br />JosephAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699371146826913182.post-17981086337138823112011-11-20T02:16:47.905-08:002011-11-20T02:16:47.905-08:00i don't know if anyone is still following this...i don't know if anyone is still following this here comment thread. i don't heel strike hard, but i am a heel striker. most of you are, too, even though you tell yourselves you land on your forefoot. <br /><br />observations about the bondi b's? shortened my stride a touch and really put that built in rocker to use and it made a nice difference in how my legs were able to recover from day to day training and i found i wasn't fighting the shoe. found that my hamstring and glute muscles were fatigued a bit more when i started in these shoes. that too, soon subsided. my opinion is that these shoes encourage endurance. i don't have any desire to race a 10K in them, but i look forward to running for a couple of hours and being able to go back to work without worrying that my feet and body are going to be wrecked. <br /><br />sizing is a mystery. i went up a half size on the bondi b's and i don't use the footbed in them, and that seems to be the sweet spot for me. deviate much from that an mister blister comes a calling. tread peels away pretty easily, but the eva is holding up just fine for the most part. i have about 400 miles on mine and the last 100 miles or so have been the best ones, yet. eva does compress a bit over time, but that doesn't seem to change how the shoes feel while your running. <br /><br />looks. well, i've moved past the looks. healthy, consistent running and increased endurance for me is the selling point. it would be cool if you did a camo version, but that's just my inner sylvester stallone coming out. the hoka rambo does have a nice ring to it. <br /><br />what else. <br /><br />i do think that if you find these work for you, you should run in these consistently. changing from a shoe like this back to something conventional made for some awkward runs. stride felt awkward and stiff, like my timing was off. i'd liken it too getting a hitch in your golf swing. when i go back to the bondi's, things seemed to smooth back out for me. so stay with them once you decide to go this route. <br /><br />i reckon that all. thank you. <br /><br />BreeceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699371146826913182.post-50722248915018298692011-10-24T21:13:30.742-07:002011-10-24T21:13:30.742-07:00Anonymous writer
I have the same sentiment word f...Anonymous writer <br />I have the same sentiment word for word as you.. Less trashed=>more recovery=>more quality training=> better racing results=> positive reinforcement=>success breeds success=>more fun in life=> fewer injuries=> happiness and joy.. but you get the picture. DDave Mackeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13582815873942037665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699371146826913182.post-62440863302966687512011-10-24T13:29:40.426-07:002011-10-24T13:29:40.426-07:00Have been in the Bondi B's for a few months no...Have been in the Bondi B's for a few months now and competed in my first ever 'ultra' at the 'Boise 50K Frenzy.' I already knew that the extra cushioning provided by the Bondi's resulted in far less next day soreness, but was especially grateful for this benefit after the race, as there was a lot of wicked downhill pounding. I fear that if I were in any other shoe, I would be taking off more days from running and hopping on the bike for cross training ( which isn't always a bad thing ), but you get the picture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699371146826913182.post-46396396659526290212011-09-24T20:23:35.165-07:002011-09-24T20:23:35.165-07:00Dave,
I've had IT issues quite a bit, and have...Dave,<br />I've had IT issues quite a bit, and have used the Mafates for a couple months. I do like them downhill, and they'e fine uphill (most shoes are) but I'd say that the IT band seems to act up more on flats with the Mafates than with other shoes. <br />With the rocker design, if you land forefoot, you don't get a 4 mm drop because you land on the rockered away section, so maybe more of a 6 mm drop or something. It feels awkward to land forefoot in the shoes, and forefoot landing seems to be the only way I've found to not aggravate the IT on flats.<br />Just 2 cents!<br />-Chris L, Boulder, co.Astroyamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14831457636203595076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699371146826913182.post-8570722321597329292011-08-06T03:24:44.837-07:002011-08-06T03:24:44.837-07:00Hi Dave,
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